迪米特拉‧喬治將於2017美國NCGR占星研討會中，演講〈象牙之門，犄角之門：9宮與夢的解析 (Gates of Ivory, Gates of Horn: The 9th House and Dream Interpretation)〉。以下為主辦單位針對迪米特拉‧喬治的個人專訪。
答：我在1971年讀的第一本書，是由Llewelyn George所著，說明如何繪製星盤的《天宮圖製作者與描繪者ABC》；接著是Dane Rudhyar的《個性占星學》以及Alice Bailey的《奧秘占星學》，那拓展了我對占星學的宇宙觀與哲學架構。1973年時，Eleanor Bach給了我一本她新出版的《小行星星曆：穀神星、智神星、婚神星、灶神星》，開啟了我對小行星的研究，最後集結成我在1986年出版的《四女神星》；1974年我讀了Dane Rudhyar 的《月相週期》，這成為我在《暗月之謎》與《穿越黑暗之路》兩本書中，教授月相方面的基礎架構，我至今仍保有Alan Oken的《同上如下》以及我在書緣的註記；在1996年時，Robert Zoller建議我讀托勒密的《四書》，從那之後幾十年，我開始鑽研所有希臘占星家的著作，包含Antiochus、Valens、Porphyry、Dorotheus、Firmicus Maternus、Hephaistio of Thebes以及Rhetorius⋯⋯而班傑明‧戴克翻譯的中世紀占星師Guido Bonatti《天文學研究》一書，則名列帶到荒島上的書單。
答：1972年至1973年間，透過加州歐申賽德市的「薔薇十字會」獎學金，函授課程的弟兄姊妹們是我最早的老師們；1973年至1974年波特蘭占星中心的Virginia Dayan，透過Dane Rudhyar的著作以及Marc Robertson的教導為我在人文占星打下了基礎；在1970年代，Joanne Wickenburg在我透過函授向她學習現代心理占星的過程中，扮演著極重要的角色；Zip Dobyns是另一個早期的影響，我曾參加他在蒙大拿州的羽毛笛農場舉辦的夏季密集課程；Robert Zoller、 Robert Schmidt與Alan White在指導我傳統中世紀與希臘占星學中都是極有幫助的；我在開普勒學院教書那幾年，與Nick Campion、Rob Hand、Lee Lehman以及Dennis Harness一同教學的團隊中激發出相當多的想法，並且從中獲益良多；還有James H. Holden，他一直支持我，解答我的疑惑——發現例證，提供模糊或難解字句的翻譯，並解釋手稿等。
關於 DEMETRA GEORGE
Interview with Demetra George
Q: How would you describe your astrological focus or area of study?
A: In retrospect, I see that it is my connection to classical antiquity that has informed my areas of focus and study in astrology. My Greek yia yias’ (grandmothers) told me the tales of the gods and goddesses as my bedtime stories. These memories connected me to how I would come to understand the meanings of all the mythic asteroids, and from there the archetypal approach to astrological interpretation that led to the sacred site tours. Modern Greek was my first language and this guided me to support Project Hindsight’s translations of the ancient astrological texts. Before this phase would be over, I would learn ancient Greek, teach the history of astrology at Kepler College, and participate in the reconstruction of Hellenistic astrology. Both parts of my life work, the mythic asteroids and traditional astrology, emerged from the same lunar matrix.
Q: What are some of the books that influenced you in your study of astrology? Can you tell us a little about how they were influential?
A: My very first study book in 1971 that explained how to cast a chart was the ABC Horoscope Maker and Delineator by Llewelyn George. This was followed by Astrology of Personality by Dane Rudhyar and Esoteric Astrology by Alice Bailey that gave me an expanded perception of astrology within cosmological and philosophical frameworks. In 1973, Eleanor Bach gave me a copy of her newly published The Ephemerides of the Asteroids: Ceres Palls, Juno, Vesta which began my research with all the many asteroids to follow and culminated in the publication of Asteroid Goddesses in 1986In 1974 I read The Lunation Cycle by Dane Rudhyar and this was the foundation framework for the lunation phase teachings I included in Mysteries of the Dark Moon andFinding Our Way through the Dark. I still have my copy of Alan Oken’s As Above, So Below with all my notes in the margins. In 1996 Robert Zoller had me read aloud The Tetrabiblos by Ptolemy and from there I skipped onto the works of all the Hellenistic astrologers over the next decade, including those by Antiochus, Valens, Porphyry, Dorotheus, Firmicus Maternus, Hephaistio of Thebes and Rhetorius. Ben Dykes translation of the Book of Astronomy by medieval astrologer Guido Bonatti is on my list of book’s I’d take to a desert island.
Q: Can you tell us about your teachers?
A: The brothers and sisters of the Rosicrucian Fellowship in Oceanside, CA were my first teachers via a correspondence course in 1972-73. In 1973-74, Virginia Dayan at the Portland Astrology Center grounded me in humanistic astrology through the writings of Dane Rudhyar and the teachings of Marc Robertson. During the 1970’s Joanne Wickenburg also played a major role in my understanding of modern psychological astrology in the correspondence course I took with her, and Zip Dobyns was another early influence in the Summer Intensives at the Feathered Pipe Ranch in Montana.
Robert Zoller, Robert Schmidt and Alan White were all instrumental in teaching me traditional Medieval and Hellenistic astrology. During my years at Kepler College, I benefited from tremendous cross fertilization of ideas in team teaching with Nick Campion, Rob Hand, Lee Lehman, and Dennis Harness. And, at the base is James H. Holden who was always there to answer my questions, find the citations, offer his translations of obscure or tricky passages, and explain the manuscripts.
Q: How to Study Astrology?
- Take the time to learn how to hand calculate the chart. You will understand so much about planetary motion that you will never figure out by just looking at computer generated charts.
- Get an ephemeris and most days spend a few minutes looking at it with your morning coffee or cereal. Come to know where the planets are now, where they were at critical times in your past, and what is in the immediate and long distance future.
- Read as many books as you can to get a big picture of astrology and discover which of the many areas call to you most strongly.
- Take a structured course – this can be online, someone’s program presented in a book, via correspondence, in person, in a small class in someone’s living room or individual instruction by phone or Skyeso that you have some organization, sense of priorities, and evaluation of competency in your learning process.
- Connect with other astrologers – in your community, online, at conferences so you can practice speaking the language, find out what others are studying and learning, and become part of the international tribe of astrologers. This is one of the joys of a life in the astrology world.
- Read Charts to your friends and family from the beginning. You do not have to wait until you think you are good enough. You do not have to charge, but practice on whoever is willing. Whatever you learn that week, try it out on someone you know. The people to whom you read are your greatest teachers because that chart is their life and they are the best people to verify what you think it means.
ABOUT DEMETRA GEORGE
Demetra George, MA, looks to classical antiquity for inspiration in her pioneering work in mythic archetypal astrology, ancient techniques and history, and translations from Greek of primary source texts. She is the author of Astrology for Yourself, Asteroid Goddesses, Mysteries of the Dark Moon, Finding our Way through the Dark, Astrology and the Authentic Self, and Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice. She lives in Oregon, lectures internationally, and leads pilgrimages to the sacred sites in Greece, Italy, Egypt and India. She offers personal astrological consultations and mentors individual students in all level of astrological education.